Bans on court use of sharia/international law: a look at the 2014 bills; Missouri attempts repassage after veto & Vermont has its first such bill

We aren’t a full week into the legislative cycle and already have a few bills that purport to ban state court use of sharia/international law. As was the case in 2013, these are heavily modified bills from the originals introduced in 2010 and, in the case of Oklahoma, struck down by a federal court.

Specifically, most now limit the prohibition on the use of sharia/international law

  • does not use the word “sharia” specifically
  • applies only to a particular case type (such as family law or domestic relations)
  • does not infringe on the right to contract
  • does not apply to not apply to a corporation, partnership, limited liability company, etc.
  • does not apply to recognition or use of tribal court decisions in state courts
  • does not apply to ecclesiastical matters within a denomination

Missouri’s bill in particular is worth noting. SB 267 of 2013 was vetoed by that state’s governor who noted that among other things the bill might void foreign adoptions. There was a successful veto override in the Senate, but the House override failed by a single vote. SB 619 of 2014 in effect, puts the language of the governor’s veto message into the older bill.

In addition this it the first year Vermont has seen such a bill introduced (SB 265).

List of bills below the fold

Does not affect right to contract freely/contract provisions
Does not apply to corporations
Does not apply to tribal court decisions
Does not apply to ecclesiastical matters/religious orgs
Other items
Limited to Family law (Chapter 61 & 88 Florida Statutes) Does not apply to use of English common law.
Carry over from 2013.
Specifically does not apply to child adoptions.
Carry over from 2013.
Carry over from 2013.
 X Prefiled.
Carry over from 2013.

30 thoughts on “Bans on court use of sharia/international law: a look at the 2014 bills; Missouri attempts repassage after veto & Vermont has its first such bill”

  1. what is it that muslims don’t under stand about the first amendment. does the word church confuse them. it is understood that when they said seperation of church and state, the founding fathers meant to keep all religions out of american law. as jefferson said, the wall of seperation should be high and inpenatrable.

    saba ahmed, i see the nigerians lashed a person for being gay today. perhaps we will see the light and follow their excellent example, god willing.

  2. Sharia law does not provide equality for women in inheritance or divorce. Is that what American Muslims want?

  3. American Muslims need to start defending Islam in all three branches of government on the Federal and State level. Being a Muslimah I don’t appreciate others talking for me. I have all the freedoms and rights to practice my religion freely in whatever way I want. Sharia law is misinterpreted by some countries. Inshallah American Muslim Legal Scholars can help guide us. Unconstitutional overbroad and vague laws are not the solution. Looking forward to helping educate elected officials about Islam and Muslims. Inshallah!

  4. “I have all the freedoms and rights to practice my religion freely in whatever way I want.”

    not true. freedom of religion is limited, as all freedoms are. so if you say your religion allows for polygamy or polyandry, it must be allowed? female genital mutilation? slavery?

    so what is unconstitutional about uphholding the constitution? if the lawmakers write unconstitutional laws than the courts can overturn them. but the idea that sharia should be allowed to replace american law is rediculous.

  5. First the idear to limit the right of our court from foreign law is supid. When the U.S. top court was hearing than case involseing Texas Sodney law, both side whereing useing than 8th century cannon law of the Roman Cathority religion in they legal beif with both side with different insperion of what that law mean, the Court was unable to figure out what it meant , so they wrote than letter to the Pope of that time ask him about that 8Th century Cannon law.

  6. Brian wake up and use a text editor so I can understand what you are saying.

    And for you Saba good luck with your religion practice just keep it outside our secular laws. We don’t need our daughters to inherit half of what the man inherits. And we don’t need a husband to divorce his wife by just saying to her you are divorced three times without her getting any of the wealth he accumulated. Read your Sharia laws.

  7. Saba, immigrants have always been free to practice their faith, but you aren’t allowed to push your faith or your laws off on the rest of us. Sharia Law is not compatible with our Constitution which means that I don’t want it and will fight against it! You should assimilate into our society. If you wish to live like you did in your home country then please feel to leave.

  8. Saba, Penny is RIGHT! And I find it very ironic that when “we” go to any Muslim country, we must adhere to their rules! But when Muslims come here, they enjoy freedoms they don’t even have in their own countries. I agree with Penny…go back home! We won’t miss you one bit.

    The Pilgrims came to America to avoid the established government religion in England and other European countries! They wanted to worship the ONLY true GOD (Yahweh) in spirit and truth. But various denominations (Baptists, Puritans, Catholics, Methodists, etc.) while all worshiping the same GOD, had opposing doctrines. So the Founders wanted to make sure that ALL Christians would be free to worship the ONE TRUE GOD as they saw fit to do. They had no idea that one day FALSE religions, like Islam, Secular Humanism, etc. would one day enter our nation and then demand the same right! And now they even claim discrimination IF they can’t get their Sharia Law to be put above our Constitution! Political Correctness is what started all this stupidity! Americans need to start standing up and speaking out and stop letting these “bullies” use our own freedoms to try to put Christianity down. Yahweh blessed and protected America for many years but now He is pulling his blessings and we are experiencing the curses promised in Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28! America is no longer the head and is becoming the tail in the world.

  9. I see there are two Muslims on this blog, one arguing FOR Sharia Law and the other AGAINST.
    Saba Ahmed says he can practice his religion any way he wants. (“I have all the freedoms and rights to practice my religion freely in whatever way I want.”) So in Sura 9-5, the Quran tells you to “slay pagans with every strategem of war” and in Sura 9-29 the Quran tells you to “fight People of the Book (Christians…that’s ME..and Jews) until we are subdued” and in Sura 2-193 the Quran tells you to “fight until Islam is supreme”. Are you going to follow your god allah and practice these things against 99% of Americans who are not Muslim? You do believe that your god made these statements to you in the Quran, don’t you? There is also Sura 5-51 which states that you should “Make not friends or protectors of Christians and Jews”. Do you abide by that command also? If your god really created the universe and mankind, why does he call on you to kill and fight and subdue others of his creation. Why does he not do the killing himself? Because he cannot?
    My God, the God of Abraham and the Father of Jesus, tells us to “love one another” and to “love your neighbor as your self”. My God and your god cannot be the same being.
    I do not know why you want to live in America with its freedoms guaranteed in the Constitution. America is a great country because of its freedoms and because it was founded on Judeo Christian teachings. America has been a benefit to mankind because the freedom has allowed it to prosper and develop more technology and medicine for the benefit of man than any other country in history. You want to push Islamic Sharia Law. Look at the Islamic countries of the world…very little innovation and if not for oil resources developed by Americans and other Western countries, the people of the Mid East would still be riding camels.
    There are many violent verses in your Quran like the few I stated previously. You are NOT free to practice these violent Quran verses here in America (or having four wives or being allowed to beat your wife legally or enforcing your religion on the rest of us). You call it your religion; we call it murder and terroism.
    If by chance you are a good person and do not believe in these verses supposedly revealed by your god, I invite you to read the Gospels and come to the Light and Truth of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who proved His Divinity by countless miracles including giving sight to the blind and raising three people from the dead and then Himself on the third day as He Prophesized. Don’t you think “love your neighbor as yourself” is far superior to “slay the pagan with every strategem of war” and “fight Christians and Jews until they are sudued”?
    It’s your choice, Jesus Christ invites you to read the Gospels and come to the Truth.

  10. Jo Holland, i think your grasp of the founders intentions is a bit slanted, or at least incomplete. here is an article you should read.

    also, your delusion of an america that should be “christian” is insane, the blessings of your mythical god has nothing to do with american’s position in the world. it’s nuts like you who have put “under god” in the pledge and “in god we trust” one money in the 50s. if the founders wanted america to be a “christian” nation under some “true god” those phrases so obviously absent. you are scarier then the muslims, because, unfortunately you have numbers. which is why this is such an important fight. not just to keep sharia out but to keep you out as well. speaking of leviticus and deuteronomy, some of those laws are worst than sharia. burning people and stoning a rape victum if she doesn’t scream loud enough.

    funny, even muhammad has judged by the old testement. you probably have more in common with saba then you know.

    Narrated Abdullah bin Umar: The jews came to Allah’s Apostle and mentioned to him that a man and a lady among them had committed illegal sexual intercourse. Allah’s Apostle said to them, “What do you find in the Torah regarding the Rajam?” They replied, “We only disgrace and flog them with stripes.” ‘Abdullah bin Salam said to them, ‘You have told a lie the penalty of Rajam is in the Torah.’ They brought the Torah and opened it. One of them put his hand over the verse of the Rajam and read what was before and after it. Abdullah bin Salam said to him, “Lift up your hand.” Where he lifted it there appeared the verse of the Rajam. So they said, “O Muhammad! He has said the truth, the verse of the Rajam is in it (Torah).” Then Allah’s Apostle ordered that the two persons (guilty of illegal sexual intercourse) be stoned to death, and so they were stoned, and I saw the man bending over the woman so as to protect her from the stones.

  11. I am annoyed by the fact that so many Muslims in the US seem so willfully ignorant of their own Quran and hadith. Fortunately, Americans are becoming more knowledgeable about sharia, and are less willing to be fooled by taqiyyah and kitman. The thing I don’t understand is why Muslims come to a country where the rules are really clear: no religion in government. Then they try to change the rules. I have many Muslim friends in the ME, where is no conflict between Islam and the government. They are happy there. It seems that fomenting conflict seems to go along with the need to emigrate from the ME to the West. Strange. Just go back where you will be happy–or accept our Constitution. The choices are simple. Conversion of the US WILL NOT HAPPEN.

  12. TruthWFree, first names ending with an a are usually feminine. also she says she is a muslimAH. that means female muslim.

    “My God, the God of Abraham and the Father of Jesus, tells us to “love one another” and to “love your neighbor as your self”.” is this the same god of moses? the god who told his moses to kill every man woman and child, save for the virgin girls, of the midenites. read judges 30 forward. the god who killed innocent children during the passover.

    i agree with america is great because of our freedoms but judeo christian principles have nothing to do with it. if we followed those principles (many shared with sharia) our progress would have been greatly restricted. our vast natural resources (including oil) is the main reason for our asent to the top. not your god.

  13. Mike Malzahn, okay Saba may be female. Does that mean she is not supposed to follow the Quran verses I site? I think not, except if she is female, she only has half the intelligence of a man per Muhammad and possibly should not be commenting based on Islamic standards (sarcasm intended).
    The God of Abraham and Moses and the Father of Jesus are the same. Yes, the Old Testament has some very violent writings, and I have to admit I wonder how God could command those killings back there in light of Jesus teachings in the Gospels. In the case of the Canaanite and Jebusites and Amorites and others, I’ve read they sacrificed their first born to Molec or Baal and thus were destroyed (kinda like our abortion obsession). Jesus said in the Gospels that “the Father and I are One” so I believe what He said.
    The Quran also calls for killing and 1400 years of Islamic history show they follow those verses and the teaching is for all times, just as are the Gospels (for all times) where you will find NO calls for violence against those who do not believe in Jesus. Also, one does not see Jews killing and pointing to those Old Testament stories to support the killing (they are history…specific for the time and objective) as you do the Muslims killing in the name of their allah today.
    Since I believe the God of Abraham is the God who created the universe, I cannot question His right to destroy some of his creation gone bad as He did in the Flood and as he did in the Red Sea. After all, Jesus said in the Gospels, he who does not believe in the Son of Man is already condemned. You apparently do not believe in Jesus as God even with the Gospel message of his sound teachings, and His countless eye witnessed miracles which included bringing people back from the dead. That’s your choice.
    “i agree with america is great because of our freedoms but Judeo Christian principles have nothing to do with it.”
    I would say that the Ten Commandments of love your neighbor as yourself, honor your father and mother, no killing, no stealing, no lying, no adultery and no envy of neighbor and his goods serve our society well even though many more break these commands today than 50 years ago, it seems, and the drifting away from those Judeo Christian beliefs are evident in our degenerating society. In business, if I know the person I’m dealing with is honest and abides in these principles, it makes transacting business much more easily contracted. Handshake deals among Americans were once common. Most people try to live by those rules and Jesus in His teachings even went further in that anger is also a sin related to Thou Shall not Kill and lusting in your heart is a form of adultery. The Founding Father’s quotes on faith in the Judeo Christian God are all there to see and they established the 1st Amendment which is not freedom from religion as is claimed by the left these days. I say the Judeo Christian principles including freedom have everything to do with America’s success. We’ll just have to disagree on that…but I’m right. 🙂
    I know of no common ground between Christian teaching and Sharia. Can you supply one or two common teachings to enlighten me? I know Muhammad copied circumcision, and stoning for adultery from the Old Testament and he got around adultery with four wives and easy divorce (I divorce you three times) plus sex slaves…but did he copy any of the GOOD teachings of Jesus?…I think not.
    Finally Mike, as an atheist (I presume?), you have far less to worry about in a Christian dominated land then you would in an Islamic dominated land. In the old Islamic conquests, Christians and Jews were allowed to live as dhimmis (second class citizens) if they did not convert to Islam…not so with Hindus and other pagans…it was convert or die. The Muslims cannot separate politics from religion if you can call it that. But then you probably already know that, correct?

  14. Mike Malzahn, Just got an email on Proposed 28th Amendment…Congress shall pass no law that applies to the Citizens of the United States that does not apply to Congress, the President and (vice versa).
    In looking through the Constitution, I came across Article VII, and it states, “Done in convention by the unanimous consent of the states present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven and of the independence of the United States of America the twelfth (year). In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our names,”.
    Now who is this Lord by who the years of the calendar are measured even to this day? Could it be Muhammad? or Buddha? or a Hindu god? or Jupiter? or Hercules?…..or a atheist non god?
    No, even you atheists will have to admit the LORD that marks the years of our calendar the world over is from the birth of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. This nation WAS founded by Christians incorporating Christian principles.
    BTW, I double clicked on that Saba Ahmed and got an Islamic type website, so maybe this person is not real?

  15. TruthWFree

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    love your neighbor as yourself is not one of the ten commandments. would have been a good one to start with, but your god seems more concerned with people worshiping him, then how people treat each other. but yes, honest business dealings are important and people behaving ethically towards their fellow citizens helps in building a nation. so i should have not said judeo-christian princilpes had “nothing” to do with america’s success. i should have said little. ;). i remeber 20 years ago this old christian guy once said to me that he believed that belief in christ is why the european countries and america were the wealthiest nations on earth. so i asked him, whoat about japan. he didn’t have an answer. anyway, slavery helped build america, is that a judeo-christian principle? the curse of ham? lol. indentured servitude? manifest destiny claimed divine right to kill the neighboring native people. that certainly helped westward expantion. good think polk didn’t love our mexican neighbors. if so salt lake city would still be in mexico. of course we may want to give them back california be for too long now. but you do know that muhammad is said to have given laws that say to deal fairly with each other in business transactions. as for the quran taking good from the earlier abrahamic traditions, muslims will often quote 5:32: because of this we did ordain unto the children of israel, that to kill one man, unless it be in punishment for murder or spreading corruption, it is as if he killed all mankind, and to save a life…certainly you have heard that one before. do you know that there is a statue of muhammad on the supreme court building. i think he is next to moses holding the ten commandments with muhammad holding the koran, and a sword. you already mentioned comminalities in laws governing adulty. polygamy is allowed in all abrahamic religions. speaking of women inheriting half that of men. what does the bible say about inheritance for women? slavery is allowed in both. you can agrue over which religion is better or worse, but the point is moot. neither should be allowed into the courts. correct, the number one problem with islam is it’s lack of seperation of religion and governance.

    i don’t mean to speak for someone else, lol, but as for the verses. the 9th surah is actually a continuation of the 8th according to some. either way muslims tell me that those verses are dealing with the battle of badr. as does the often quoted 8:12 strike at their necks..cut of every fingertip…i’m sure you know it. and that was a defensive battle, 313 muslims against 1000 pagans, muhammads own tribe the banu quarysh.

    i think 5:51 is more concerning than those. and i agree with you it should give pause to non-muslims as to how muslims veiw them. the 5th surah was supposedly revealed shortly before the final pilgramige. final because he died just after it. so it was near the end of his life and i’ve never heard any muslims agree that it referances any particular jewish or christian tribes. maybe saba can enlighten us? i also, being an atheist, find 25:44 troubling.

    iu clicked in saba as well the other day. i thought she was a lawyer? doesn’t it say we are not excepting new clients? and i say a bunch of links to government documents, either laws or proposals for new laws?

  16. the year of our lord. you do know that it’s not even acurate. jesus was born in 6bc. even the anti-secular champion of the culture war against reason in favor of ancient christian principles acknowledges that. have you not read killing jesus? btw, the whole world doesn’t go by it. its 1400 something in many countries. the chinese have a 5000 year-old and still celebrate a new year that is not january 1st. jews have their own calender as well. mayan calander just ended. america somoa lost a day last year, could be a sign of the demise of america. sunday, moonday, does that make us pagans? july, we still venrate julius and augustus as gods incarnate. there are lots of things from many religions that have shaped our terminology. so was washington a pharoah? why an obelisk? you a fan of the statue of liberty?

  17. Legal Arguments Against Florida Senate Bill 386:

    FS § 45.022 violates United States and Florida Constitutions (Supremacy, Equal Protection & Religion Clauses)
    • Under the strict scrutiny analysis, the government must show that the challenged classification serves a compelling state interest and the classification is narrowly tailored to serve that interest. Arguably, the classification is religious foreign laws and the compelling government interest is ensuring neutrality in the Florida courts. However, the ban does not ensure neutrality because it discriminates against all foreign laws. If a prohibition is expressed in a way that is too unclear for a person to reasonably know whether or not their conduct falls within the law, then the law’s effects are thereby far broader than intended or than the Constitution permits, and hence the law is overbroad and void for vagueness. Therefore, 45.022 is unconstitutional.

    FS § 45.022 violates The Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause of the U.S. Constitution
    • The term “foreign law, legal code, or system” is being defined in this Florida statute. The vagueness of the statute’s language allows courts to use discretion of the statutes enforcement in a discriminatory manner against minorities. The statute places undue hardship on judges and prevents their discretion in family law disputes. The Establishment Clause was intended to prohibit the government from declaring and financially supporting a national religion. Here, the religious foreign law ban violates the establishment clause because its enforcement prohibits religious foreign laws of specific targeted minorities i.e. Muslims, Jews, etc.

    FS § 45.022 violates International Human Rights Laws, Treaties and Conventions
    • Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Note: International Laws Supersede State/Federal Laws as United States is a signatory)

  18. Oh sure, it is only the Koran/Allah that command death to non-believers. That doesn’t happen at all in the Bible/Yahweh.

    1. God drowns the whole earth.
    In Genesis 7:21-23, God drowns the entire population of the earth: men, women, children, fetuses, and perhaps unicorns. Only a single family survives. In Matthew 24:37-42, gentle Jesus approves of this genocide and plans to repeat it when he returns.
    2. God kills half a million people.
    In 2 Chronicles 13:15-18, God helps the men of Judah kill 500,000 of their fellow Israelites.
    3. God slaughters all Egyptian firstborn.
    In Exodus 12:29, God the baby-killer slaughters all Egyptian firstborn children and cattle because their king was stubborn.
    4. God kills 14,000 people for complaining that God keeps killing them.
    In Numbers 16:41-49, the Israelites complain that God is killing too many of them. So, God sends a plague that kills 14,000 more of them.
    5. Genocide after genocide after genocide.
    In Joshua 6:20-21, God helps the Israelites destroy Jericho, killing “men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.” In Deuteronomy 2:32-35, God has the Israelites kill everyone in Heshbon, including children. In Deuteronomy 3:3-7, God has the Israelites do the same to the people of Bashan. In Numbers 31:7-18, the Israelites kill all the Midianites except for the virgins, whom they take as spoils of war. In 1 Samuel 15:1-9, God tells the Israelites to kill all the Amalekites – men, women, children, infants, and their cattle – for something the Amalekites’ ancestors had done 400 years earlier.
    6. God kills 50,000 people for curiosity.
    In 1 Samuel 6:19, God kills 50,000 men for peeking into the ark of the covenant. (Newer cosmetic translations count only 70 deaths, but their text notes admit that the best and earliest manuscripts put the number at 50,070.)
    7. 3,000 Israelites killed for inventing a god.
    In Exodus 32, Moses has climbed Mount Sinai to get the Ten Commandments. The Israelites are bored, so they invent a golden calf god. Moses comes back and God commands him: “Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.” About 3,000 people died.
    8. The Amorites destroyed by sword and by God’s rocks.
    In Joshua 10:10-11, God helps the Israelites slaughter the Amorites by sword, then finishes them off with rocks from the sky.
    9. God burns two cities to death.
    In Genesis 19:24, God kills everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah with fire from the sky. Then God kills Lot’s wife for looking back at her burning home.
    10. God has 42 children mauled by bears.
    In 2 Kings 2:23-24, some kids tease the prophet Elisha, and God sends bears to dismember them. (Newer cosmetic translations say the bears “maul” the children, but the original Hebrew, baqa, means “to tear apart.”)
    11. A tribe slaughtered and their virgins raped for not showing up at roll call.
    In Judges 21:1-23, a tribe of Israelites misses roll call, so the other Israelites kill them all except for the virgins, which they take for themselves. Still not happy, they hide in vineyards and pounce on dancing women from Shiloh to take them for themselves.
    12. 3,000 crushed to death.
    In Judges 16:27-30, God gives Samson strength to bring down a building to crush 3,000 members of a rival tribe.
    13. A concubine raped and dismembered.
    In Judges 19:22-29, a mob demands to rape a godly master’s guest. The master offers his daughter and a concubine to them instead. They take the concubine and gang-rape her all night. The master finds her on his doorstep in the morning, cuts her into 12 pieces, and ships the pieces around the country.
    14. Child sacrifice.
    In Judges 11:30-39, Jephthah burns his daughter alive as a sacrificial offering for God’s favor in killing the Ammonites.
    15. God helps Samson kill 30 men because he lost a bet.
    In Judges 14:11-19, Samson loses a bet for 30 sets of clothes. The spirit of God comes upon him and he kills 30 men to steal their clothes and pay off the debt.
    16. God demands you kill your wife and children for worshiping other gods.
    In Deuteronomy 13:6-10, God commands that you must kill your wife, children, brother, and friend if they worship other gods.
    17. God incinerates 51 men to make a point.
    In 2 Kings 1:9-10, Elijah gets God to burn 51 men with fire from heaven to prove he is God.
    18. God kills a man for not impregnating his brother’s widow.
    In Genesis 38:9-10, God kills a man for refusing to impregnate his brother’s widow.
    19. God threatens forced cannibalism.
    In Leviticus 26:27-29 and Jeremiah 19:9, God threatens to punish the Israelites by making them eat their own children.

  19. Since we are just quoting sacred texts, here are some words of wisdom from The Holy Quran:

    And seek help in patience and prayer [al-Baqarah 2:45]
    And speak good to people [al-Baqarah 2:83]
    And fulfil the Covenant of Allaah when you have covenanted [al-Nahl 16:91]
    Verily! Allaah commands that you should render back the trusts to those to whom they are due [al-Nisa’ 4:58]
    And let not your hand be tied (like a miser) to your neck, nor stretch it forth to its utmost reach (like a spendthrift) [al-Isra’ 17:29]
    Eat and drink, but waste not by extravagance [al-A’raaf 7:31]
    And take a provision (with you) for the journey, but the best provision is al-taqwa (piety, righteousness) [al-Baqarah 2:197]
    And whosoever fears Allaah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make a way for him to get out (from every difficulty) [al-Talaaq 65:2]
    And whosoever puts his trust in Allaah, then He will suffice him [al-Talaaq 65:3]
    He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allaah [al-Nisa’ 4:80]
    By no means shall you attain al-birr (righteousness) until you spend (in Allaah’s cause) of that which you love [Aal ‘Imraan 3:92]
    Allaah (Alone) is Sufficient for us, and He is the Best Disposer of Affairs (for us) [Aal ‘Imraan 3:171]
    And walk not on the earth with conceit and arrogance [al-Isra’ 17:37]
    And turn not your face away from men with pride [Luqmaan 31:18]
    And be moderate (or show no arrogance) in your walking, and lower your voice [Luqmaan 31:19]
    And give not a thing in order to have more (or consider not your deeds of obedience to Allaah as a favour to Allaah) [al-Muddaththir 74:6]
    “O ye who believe! Do not squander one another’s wealth in vanities, but let there be amongst you traffic and trade by mutual good will.” Qur’an:4:29
    “When my servants ask thee (O, Muhammad) concerning Me, tell them I am indeed close (to them). I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me.” Qur’an:2:186
    “God does not forbid you to be kind and equitable to those who have neither fought against your faith nor driven you out of your homes. In fact God loves the equitable.” Qur’an:60:8
    “And in their (the earlier prophets) footsteps We sent Jesus the son o Mary, confirming the law that had come before him. We sent him the Gospel, therein was guidance and light and confirmation of the law that had come before him, a guidance and an admonition to those who fear God.” Qur’an:5:46
    “Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein, and whoever recommends and helps an evil cause shares in its burdens” Qur’an:4:85
    “Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Garden (paradise) whose width is that of the heavens and of the earth, prepared for the righteous – Those who spend (freely), whether in prosperity or in adversity, who restrain (their) anger and pardon (all) men – for God loves those who do good.” Qur’an:3:133-134
    “Whoever works righteousness, man or woman, and has faith, verily, to them will We give a new Life, a life that is good and pure, and We will bestow on such their reward according to the best of their actions.” Qur’an:16:97
    The parable of those who spend their wealth in the way of God is that of a grain that sprouts into seven ears, each bearing one hundred grains. God gives manifold increase to whom He wishes. God has boundless knowledge. Those who spend their wealth in the cause of God, and do not follow their charity with reminders of their generosity or injure the feeling of the recipient, shall get their reward from their Lord; they shall have nothing to fear or to regret.Kind words and forgiveness are better than charity followed by injury. Qur’an:2:261-263

  20. saba, do you have a link to senate bill 386? so are you a lawyer? can i ask you a hypothetical? let’s say i have a sister who marries a muslim man. she has twins, a boy and a girl. she and her husband die without a will. i go to the probate hearing and my brother-in-laws brother is there as well. he says the children are muslim and therefore sharia should apply. he wants the boy to get two thirds and the girl a third, right? i say no they should inherit equal shares per florida law. what should happen?

  21. nevermind saba, i see it now.

    5:32Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

    5:33 Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment

    so what constitutes corruption?

  22. Glad you found the bill text, here are the details:

    Be It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Florida: Section 1. Section 45.022, Florida Statutes, is created to read: 45.022 Application of foreign law contrary to public policy in certain cases.—
    (1) While the Legislature fully recognizes the right to contract freely under the laws of this state, it also recognizes that this right may be reasonably and rationally circumscribed pursuant to the state’s interest to protect and promote liberties, rights, and privileges granted under the State Constitution or the United States Constitution.
    (2) As used in this section, the term “foreign law, legal code, or system” means any law, legal code, or system of a jurisdiction outside any state or territory of the United States, including, but not limited to, international organizations or tribunals, and applied by that jurisdiction’s courts, administrative bodies, or other formal or informal tribunals. The term does not include the common law and statute laws of England as described in s. 2.01 or any laws of the Native American tribes in this state.
    (3)(a) This section applies only to actual or foreseeable denials of a natural person’s fundamental liberties, rights, and privileges guaranteed by the State Constitution or the United States Constitution from the application of a foreign law, legal code, or system in proceedings brought under, pursuant to, or pertaining to the subject matter of chapter 61 or chapter 88.
    (b) Except as necessary to provide effective relief in proceedings brought under, pursuant to, or pertaining to the subject matter of chapter 61 or chapter 88, this section does not apply to a corporation, partnership, or other form of business association.
    (4) Any court, arbitration, tribunal, or administrative agency ruling or decision violates the public policy of this state and is void and unenforceable if the court, arbitration, tribunal, or administrative agency bases its ruling or decision in the matter at issue in whole or in part on any foreign law, legal code, or system that does not grant the parties affected by the ruling or decision the same fundamental liberties, rights, and privileges guaranteed by the State Constitution or the United States Constitution.
    (5)(a) A contract or contractual provision, if severable, that provides for the choice of a foreign law, legal code, or system to govern some or all of the disputes between the parties to be adjudicated by a court of law or by an arbitration panel arising from the contract violates the public policy of this state and is void and unenforceable if the foreign law, legal code, or system chosen includes or incorporates any substantive or procedural law, as applied to the dispute at issue, which would not grant the parties the same fundamental liberties, rights, and privileges guaranteed by the State Constitution or the United States Constitution.
    (b) This subsection does not limit the right of a natural person in this state to voluntarily restrict or limit his or her fundamental liberties, rights, and privileges guaranteed by the State Constitution or the United States Constitution by contract or specific waiver consistent with constitutional principles, but the language of any such contract or other waiver must be strictly construed in favor of preserving such liberties, rights, and privileges.
    (6)(a) A contract or contractual provision, if severable, that provides for the choice of venue or choice of forum outside a state or territory of the United States violates the public policy of this state and is void and unenforceable if the enforcement of the choice of venue or forum provision would result in a violation of any fundamental liberties, rights, and privileges guaranteed by the State Constitution or the United States Constitution.
    (b) If a natural person who is subject to personal jurisdiction in this state seeks to maintain litigation, arbitration, agency, or similarly binding proceedings in this state and the courts of this state find that granting a claim of forum non conveniens or a related claim denies or would likely lead to the denial of any fundamental liberties, rights, and privileges guaranteed by the State Constitution or the United States Constitution of the non-claimant in the foreign forum with respect to the matter in dispute, it is the public policy of this state that the claim be denied.
    (7) This section may not be construed to:
    (a) Require or authorize any court to adjudicate, or prohibit any religious organization from adjudicating, ecclesiastical matters, including, but not limited to, the election, appointment, calling, discipline, dismissal, removal, or excommunication of a member, officer, official, priest, nun, monk, pastor, rabbi, imam, or member of the clergy of the religious organization, or determination or interpretation of the doctrine of the religious organization, if such adjudication or prohibition would violate s. 3, Art. I of the State Constitution or the First Amendment to the United States Constitution; or
    (b) Conflict with any federal treaty or other international agreement to which the United States is a party to the extent that such federal treaty or international agreement preempts or is superior to state law on the matter at issue.
    (8) If any provision of this section or its application to any natural person or circumstance is held invalid, the invalidity does not affect other provisions or applications of this section which can be given effect, and to that end the provisions of this section are severable.

  23. About your hypothetical, the brother is financially responsible for her well being until she gets married. Thats why it makes for him to have the higher share. The one third she gets is hers and she is not required to spend it even on herself. All her maintenance and support will be the responsibility of the brother/husband/father.

    Muslim women usually brag, my money is my money and the husband’s money is family money (also my money) 🙂 🙂 🙂

    Take a chill pill and let Muslim women defend themselves. We’ve had rights of inheritance, property, legal financial transactions for over 1400years versus American women who recently got the right to vote, to own property, to conduct financial transactions, etc. about 100years ago… Muslim American Women have the best of all worlds, Alhamdulilah!

  24. saba, oh i’m chill baby pop. no need to sweat me. yes i’m well aware of the “maintainer and protector” arguement. so what if a muslim woman doesn’t want her brother to be her maintainer and protector. can she demand her independence and take an equal share? what if the woman is college educated and her wali is a, i don’t know let’s say a taxi cab driver (no offence meant to any cab drivers out there) and she says she knows better than he as how to manager her own finances and affairs.

    not sure you are acurate with america women’s rights? clearly they couldn’t vote until the 20th century. i agree muhammad was a forward thinker for the 7th century, especially with women’s rights. he also tried to end female infantcide which was common among the pagan arabs. but luckily we aren’t in the 7th century. nor the 19th or 20th century of america. ironicly alabama was the first state to take away a husband’s right to hit his wife, 1871. it is the same verse that says the man is the maintainer and protector also says that he can hit his wife, right? 4:34.

    so you think american laws should discriminate against people based on their gender?

    Plus if you give the men all the responsibilites and ask nothing of women, then you are holding them in a perpetual state of childhood, don’t you think? 🙂

    this is england but pretty interesting.

    you ever seen the documentry koran by heart?

  25. Thanks for the Sharia Council videos from Britain. That is exactly why we need Western courts to be able to understand Sharia law in domestic disputes; instead of leaving it to these private courts to issue arbitrary judgments. Domestic Violence victims do not deserve to go through the emotional, mental and physical torture again and again through these useless mediation mechanisms. I wonder how many women are judges on the Shura Councils. God help us all, Amen!

  26. saba, you’re approaching this from the wrong angle. “That is exactly why we need Western courts to be able to understand Sharia law in domestic disputes;” NO, this is why we need one law for all america’s. and why we need to get religious laws out of american courts. we can’t have different sets of rules for every religion in the world. you have any idea how many religions there are? and sects within those religions? i mean just in islam there are 4 major madhads for the sunni. the shia have two others. if someone argues a point by a hadith then what if the other muslims says they are koran only.

    we had a case in tampa were an islamic center was given a couple of million dollars for some land under eminient domain. their was some dispute over how gets the money. the parties agree to islamic mediation. the scholars ruled and the lossing party then went, nevermind, we want to be heard in the secular court. now we have a judge studying up on sharia to make a ruling. this is rediculous. law is vague and hard enough without throwing ancient religious concepts thrown into the mix.muslims don’t even agree on what sharia is. does the 2nd verse of the 24th surah arbogate stoning of adulterers in favor of lashing? is there such thing as marital rape in islam? you do know the case that insprired these laws?

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